*screams and hides under desk*
oh no..is right
this will be intresting
were all gonna die!!!
ooh the moths are on their myspaces too.
and so now begins the real fun
ok so for real. lets try to see if we can get anything from this.now who's watching us? the death heads? i'm sure. seeing as now not only this blog but the raw rock militia AND showbread myspace have the moth as the main picture...this is really frightening a little!
OMGOSHHH finally, the takeover.i feel like i'm being watched.lol
maybe the death heads took over showbread and we should organize a rescue team.
if we organize a rescue team do we get cool code names?
sweet, code names! good thinkin. i'll be valerocious.pshhahaha...
guys we are being watched and you are talking about a rescue team and code names, wow. haha
duh.cool code names are a must ;-)you can be Pinafore.lolll
mary has a point...but i kinda don't know what else to do.we really havent thought too much into the letters yet...maybe we should be doing that!
oh by the way...if we get code names...ive got dibs on saranator.
dang, saranator is an awesome code name. yuh, i guess we should think about the letters, but that 120 think is still creeping me out. OH and NO, i didn't read the book, just the first chapter, then skimmed the next couple, then had to fight gag reflex, yaknow...
Anyways... There has to be something more to "the takeover"... Unless it just means that it is going to start now.
yes we should! haha ok so the 2 blanks were oreb and sinai, but we don't know where this comes into play just now.
valerocious is pretty spiff, too.but ok. yes. the takeover...im really thinking this post is just super emphasizing the idea of the moths...and that they are the death heads. because i remember in the post before last [ i think ] it said how 001 left a mess that was chewed to pieces...moths chew stuff up right? and then there was the last sounds clip, where the girl was freaking out about the bug.
i don't think reading the book is important, it's just a reference... just like paradise lost and screwtape letters... it's a strip club/abattoir so it's named after a obscene, violent and sexual book...after all, the term "sadism" is derived from the marguis de sade's name.
oreb 01 and sinai 495when i was googling around earlier, i saw that sinai 495 was an old bible-related text, but it was in greek so, i couldn't read it, nor did the translator make any sense of it.
wait, two blanks, two versions of "fallen" in the picture that must tie in somehow...
right and oreb translated to 'raven' so says wikipedia.and im thinking there is some significance to the back that abattoir is spelled 'abbatoir' on this letter..
**to the fact that
This is what I got when I just googled abattoir...I thought it was kind of interesting. Something likened to a slaughterhouse: “The hand of God and mankind's self-inflicted blows seem equally heavy … giving a strong cumulative impression of the world as an abattoir” (Manchester Guardian Weekly)
intersting...on the letter. there is a picture of a cow...slaughterhouse?
Yeah and abbatoir is a band. Granted they didn't make it far... But so says wikipedia
huh. does any of their... uhh .... bandliness seem to relate back to all of this?
so..(just a thought) but maybe, since slaughterhouses relate with death..it could be connected to the other letter which was a medical center...?
No... But the singer went on to form Nobody's Heroes... Don't think that has anything to do with it.
sara, does that paper look like a flyer for an actual place or something printed up for...effect?just curious. cause if it's a real place or event, um, *scream*
I think that we made the connection that was intended with the letters. I don't think that the front of them is useful anymore than that.
what if there were clues in josh's book?or what if this whole thing lead up to him trying to get us to read his book???????loljk.i really don't think so..
Sodom, which is on the flyer, is a cities in the bible. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of the terrible sins that was going around there.
Me neither, but I do know he's writing a new book... But that wouldn't explain all of the connections with Showbread. Plus, I've read the book and it is not ringin a bell. Unless it's like the divinci code. We could call it the SCP Code
this definitely doesn't relate to his book. I read it twice lol
valerieee- so. i dont think this is a REAL flier. it looks like it was home made, just for the occasion of sending a clue. its obviously printed off of a personal printer...on regular paper...and cut out just a little bit sloppy. [probably on purpose...to not make it look real...haha]if this were a real flier...id cry.
Well, the reason that's used is because the word "sodomy" is derived from Sodom. So, that would make sense for it to be on a strip club poster, given the sexual sin in Sodom and Gamorrah.
definitely. although i was wondering if anyone could make any connection with the axes on the flier?
yeah I was thinking that too. But I thought I should just lay that out there.
the axes probably have to just do with the slaughterhouse I guess...
thanks sara!! i feel a gazillion times better...
oh and from the picture it kind of looks like the girl is holding a gun, which also relates to the slaughterhouse.
mhmm my thoughts exactly.
the one thing about the flier i truly dont get is where it says "discotheque" hahah.
that means a venue or club
so that makes sense
oh. thank you for clearing that uppp.
Maybe it's not a clubLots of clubs do gothic things including bondage stuff. So maybe that's it.
Forget that first line... I have no idea where that came from
ok guys, for valerie's sake, we're hoping this isnt realll!
Because with bondage, lots of people refer to it as BDSM which in part means 'sodom'y
ok so oreb means 'raven', do we know what sinai means?
wait where did you get bondage from?
Oh... IDK but everyone make sure to monitor your email too, because we gave him our email addy's
well sinai is a place over there with egypt...right?
I was saying it looks like a clubLots of clubs do bondage themesbondage=BDSM=Sodomy
bdsm is quite a different thing than somebody getting their jollies watching animals killed, f'real. not defending it, but there's a difference...
oh and also...mt. sinai of course.where the Lord spoke to the Israelites and Moses broke the tablet of the Ten Commandments ...
strip clubs break the 10 Commandments fo sho. Good idea to bring that up lol
is anyone else besides me really hesitant to leave their computers in fear of new information being discovered while their gone?
yes haha I'm going to be killed when my mum comes home from work and I'm still awake haha
Val-?I never said anything about the slaughter houses having anything to do with BDSM.
haha gosh...and ive got finals tomorrow!and im still up.i dont know about you guys, but its almost 12 here...
It's 12:40 hereGot u beat. lol
oh you must be a northerner, heh. well. i guess that...im out for the night ... if anything urgent happens just use you saranator senses and let me know whats up... haha.
OK... Me too. I'm gonna go read my Star Wars books. (For serious)
yeah 12:40 here too lol. So I guess we could be done for the night. I think we tore that letter to pieces if you ask me.
idk, we still dont know where the oreb and sinai come in. and really the purpose of the 120 and center, even though we sorta know what they're referring to.
Something tells me there's an email to be found here... Or at least soon. IDK just a feeling. That's it for tonight... G'night.
My mum works at a hospital and she came in handy with the other letter. It is a lab test result. The first part was a test for tumor marker. The results came back as he PROBABLY doesn't have cancer. It says that it isn't absolute evidence so it is just sort of a maybe thing lol. The other test on the letter is a hepatitis test. and he doesn't have hepatitis. So I guess we will leave the rest of that letter for tomorrow.
Okay, so I missed one day and now I'm totally out of the loop. What 2 blanks? Is this in an email, b/c if it is I've already forgot the username.
Nevermind, I'm reading the emails and the messages from the last post.
was gonna see The Chariot tonight.. but atleast this happened to fill my somewhat empty time. yessss i love you showbread. this is so exciting.codename: bryngelo
grr. you people get to be awake while im sposed to be sleeping. lame. :-P goodnight.
haha.. hope this doesn't mean an album obsessed with moths.. instead of reptiles. haha. 'moth millenium'
i agree with the idea that there is an email here... we are missing something.i think so anyway because so much stuff is out there right now.there is the 'fallen' clue that is linked to the message on the flyer which we conencted by the milton reference, and the blanks that we filled in from paradise lost.i know i'm gonna feel stupid when someone finally gets it.
There is just so much information, I feel like I'm floating around in a bunch of words and passwords. Soon it will come together in my brain, hopefully.
mmm, me too. i've tried literally hundreds of combinations of passwords/emails and nothing yet. k, bedtime.
WHOA guess 101st times the charm. Bryan was right in his suggestion about two blanks, etc.
How so? If you don't want to flat out say what it is on here. IM me, if you have AIM. My sn is jawsnvrmyscene.
wow i need to catch up but i dont even know where to start!
codename: D-Bagknown as: the centerwow i feel special, um so i have diferent words capitolaized then sara does. maybe there is some connection in that.
dont forget to forward it to the email i set up! please
I really hate asking, but could somebody email me a brief explanation of what happened today?! And maybe the email/password?I was only gone for a day and I'm email@example.com would be amazing!thanks.xoxojamie
sooo i'm all caught up now after four hours of nothing but reading the blog and comments, following links and such.Oy I'm sooo close to cracking the email It hurts...I need sleep I'll try again in the morning.
Good ob deciphering the letters guys. We have so many open-ended clues right now I think an e-mail has got to come sometime in the near future. Anyways, i got school, i'll see what you guys get done while i'm away.Codename: Fred
wow, so i think i missed a little over the night.i'm so dead lost right now.i've been trying all morning for the new password, but nothing.hopefully i can figure something out when i get back from school.
ok so. nice, im so tired right now. im about to go to school so i dont have time to stop and try to figure out the new email. ill do that when i get home, and ill also forward the flier to that email dudepal made.also...there were more differences i noticed than just the capitalization dudepal...i also caught some missing words here and there. eep!
....this is what I get for going to bed early. :-PWell, good thing you guys got it all figured out, so I'm up to speed.It's great that you two (dudepal & sara) were selected to get special clues f'sho.I'll keep watching 'til I've got more to say, but MAN have you guys got this covered.
val, I also would appreciate at least a few clues that make sense, firstname.lastname@example.org
wow i have missed a lotI'll have Mary fill me in and I'll try to help out. Fo Sho.
I'm so confused, Valerie. I guess email me at least some clues or just the email/password at CJtheSloth@gmail.com
I just realized that the "01" and the "495" are NOT in the Paradise Lost text. So, I don't know what that means, but I imagine they are significant to the clue.*Still confused about val's email "find"*
if anyone has looked back, to the 1st ever post, the moth now covers Joshs face.
hmm, new email address? now I'm lost...
k, sorry!!! i went straight to bed as soon as i saw it, i was so sleepy. bryan had commented that there was possibly a connection between there being two blanks in sara's and dude's letters (oreb01 and sinai495) AND the fact that the word fallen was written two times. each blank corresponds to one of the words; remember passwords are case-sensitive!! i apologise if that's a bad job explaining, and if it made no sense feel free to message me on myspace- i usually forget to check regular email. =)
ha! the moth totally does, is it in any of the otehr stuff. yeah about those numbers 01 and 495 i had the though that maybe they are lines from the poem or something like that
valerocious help me out please, either email or aim, you can get either by clicking my name. i know know but my head just isnt making the connection, im a little bit sick
OK Val... I got it.
I am seriously soo lost.
ok I got it..wow I was confused.
ach=rontia = achErontiahttp://www.museums.org.za/bio/insects/lepidoptera/sphingidae/acherontia_atropos.htmAcherontia atropos (Death's Head Hawkmoth)
so now we have 1.characters/names from upton sinclair's book the jungle, at 'the 120'/succubi platform. (probably the same from the surveillance mp3) 2.sick child at the center.3. both places being watched by heads of death.4. and the = sign on the hand in the videos is probably an E, since there's an = sign where an E would be in the word "acherontia" (which is the genus name of the death's head moth)how does it go together?i would like to mention that some of these subjects have made me think, and shift my spiritual focus in a good way. so if this never goes anywhere, i'm still grateful.
a _ _ _ e _ _ a _ _ _ _ o _ a
the 003 must be refering to them as a group since i dont thinkit would be possible for one person to moniter the center and the 120
ok valerocious...im about to hit you up on myspace. i cant get this!
me too Valerie. It may not have shifted my spiritual focus, but it was definitely opened my eyes to new things.
Let's see... There's--the e in acherontia--Succubus is in larger print on the evaluations- 003HEAD email.--Succubus is a demon. I'm not sure what it does, but it's there.--I think 120 is us and the center is the medical center with the children.--in christopher.jpg, the little girl is looking to the lower right of the picture. In this direction is a large green section, obviously put there for a reason.--Jurgis and Ona are obviously girls. and are probably the ones in mp3surveillance.--Who is Rudkus?--The picture in the corresponding email looks like a concert venue. What do all these things mean???
"Jurgis Rudkus - A Lithuanian immigrant who comes to America with his wife, Ona. Jurgis is a strong, determined individual with a faith in the American Dream of self-betterment, but his health, family, and hopes are slowly destroyed by the miserable working and living conditions in Packingtown. Jurgis, who doesn’t elicit much more from the reader than pity, is an obvious instrument that Sinclair uses to express his vision of the exploitation of the worker by capitalism and his redemption by socialism." sparknotes. Not sure what it means, but it is the names in the email..
oh, and Christopher is the name in the mp3surveillance, if you remember.
Succubus- a demon that comes in the form of a woman to seduce men in their dreams (see wikipedia; I only read the into, though)
The concert venue relates to Sara's letter and the Christopher thing relates to Dude's. Just the bring that up...
Mayr, you're pretty much a genius.
I don't really have an accurate idea of what sara's letter was, but the concert venue looks has a disco ball as per 'discotheque'.
Sara's letter was pretty much some sort of slaughterhouse strip club lol. Succubus also relates to Sara's.
i still can't get the new password/email...ahhh!
Sara, IM me (jawsnvrmyscene), or e-mail me (email@example.com). And I'll help you out. I just figured it out. heh
sara i tried to message you but myspace won't let me- its saying 'you must be friends with this user to send a message'plus, aim hasn't been working the past few days for me at allllll. if you can't get it from matty let me know.
well poo on myspace, then.thanks anyways valerie! but thankfully matty helped me out and i got! you're awesome.now i can catch up on all of this.
guys...I just got a letter.
TELL US TELL US MARY
The front of the letter is the same thing as Dude's. But the back is a little different.
can you take a picture and post a link here or send it to the email account dude made?
crap, looks like somebody already changed the password on one of them
nevermind, i'm an idiot ha ha ah
YEAH MARY *Hangs tongue out in exaustion/excitement like an overworked, fat, ugly dog*
ok, I sent my info to the Heads of Death again yesterday, I better not get left out of the next clue :(
On Sara's and Dude's in the first thing it says is "of man's first disobedience" I have "of man's first obedience"On Sara's, just before the blanks, it says "that secret top". On Dude's it says "that on the secret top." Mine says "that is on the secret top"On Dude's, disobedience is capitalized, on Sara's it isn't, on mine obedience isn't. Sara and I's says, "of man's" on Dude's its just, "Of mans"5 differences between mine and Dude's6 differences between mine and Sara's. Some of the commas are different and couple capitalized words.
p.s. I can try and take a picture. My camera, I think, it broken, but I can try to fix it.
also, Heaven is capitolized on dude's but not on mine..and where was your moth at?
I just got a letter too. The front is the flier for the 120 Days of Sodom Discotheque. The back is basically the same as Sara's. I'm gonna forward some pics to the e-mail that dudepal set up.
yeah heav'nly isn't capitalized either on mine.my moth is were the return address is supposed to be. Also my stamps are upside down. I took the moth off and under it in tiny letters it says Death's Head. I know one of yours was like that.
well is the text on the back the same? like the first few lines of paradise lost?
I think the placement of the moth on the envelope just signifies whether it's from the center (front, where the return address should be), or the 120 (back, over the flap of the envelope).
i'm lost as well, can someone email firstname.lastname@example.org also, how exactly does one sign up for the e-mails? i cannot figure out the email, so im very, very lost... which makes me sad =/
Matty B... I'm pretty sure that makes sense... So that the notes could be organized before being sent out.
well i would also think they organize by the names.but i dont get why the letters with the moth where the return dress should be are covering up 'deaths head' ... even though its marked out.
I think it's marked out, or covered up because the U.S Postal Service would be a little concerned about a bunch of letters going out with the words DEATHS HEAD written on them. heh. Just a thought.
I'm betting that has no significance. Possibly an original plan and then Josh changed his mind. You know? Or even they originally didn't have the moth on there and then he changed his mind.
haha yes im sure.but why is the moth covering it up on the 'center' letters?
Probably just a way of him knowing once the letters were sealed up, which ones were "center" letters, and which ones were "120" letters.
guess so guess so.
holy craaaaaap there's a lot going on. where's showbread?? =[ they're all just stupid moths now. and many of us (like me) have no idea what the new email and password is... so i'm behind.
I think the were organized to be sent out because of the adding of the words before the blanks. Matty, does yours add a word in the sentence similar to, "that is on the secret top"?I took pictures. I'm going to forward them to the showbreadupdate email.
Mine says "sing heav'nly muse that secret top of _____01, or of _____495"
that's the same as Sara's. hmmm
Also, for anyone interested. I just forwarded pics of both the front and back of the envelope, and the front and back of the letter to the update e-mail account.
And Kristen, I e-mailed you back about the new e-mail/password. If you still need help with it let me know.
ok i looked at the pictures.the only differnce i really see between mine and matty's is that 'seed' is in all caps on his letter. and mine has a comma after 'woe'i was also wondering...did anyone else notice that the moths on our letters are different than the main death head moth picture?
I just noticed the moth difference too. Did we all get the same moth on the letters?
Do you think I should take pictures of my envelope too?
me and you did too. I don't know about Sara or Dude
matty you live like an hour away from me, but i didn't get a letter!! ah well.smart idea about the placement of the moths.
Haha. Really? Where do you live?
yes i got the same moth as you guys, so im sure dude did too.
I JUST GOT A LETTER! I don't think this one has already been posted? But I could be wrong cuz my internet was down for most of yesterday.It's on the back of the "girls girls girls" onehahait says:"of mans first disobediance and the fruit of that forbidden tree, whose mortal tast, Brought death into the world, and all our woe, with the loss of Eden, till one greater Man restore us, and regain the blissful seat. Sing Heav'nly Muse, that on the secret top of ____ 01, or of ____ 495, didst inspire That Shepherd, who first taught the chosen Seed."here are some pics: (he spelled my last name wrong LOL, and I edited my address out for obvious reasons)http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Jamie68117/Photo1.jpghttp://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Jamie68117/Photo2.jpghttp://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Jamie68117/Photo3.jpghttp://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Jamie68117/Photo4.jpg
SORRY the links got cut offhow can i fix that????????
yes you got the letter matty and i got. and you have to but a break in your link or it wont show it all.like:half of your linkother half
Ok. It seems according to wikipedia that the moth on our letters is the Acherontia lachesis. Lachesis refers to Moira, whom in Greek Mythology allots the correct amount of life to a being.
didn't one of the new emails have 'ache=rontia' ?hmmm. [and for some reason the message in this post just now clicked. "now we watch you" ... we've been watching them through most of the previous blogs. im just thinking out loud because i just now made that connection haha.]
and it looks like while the moth on our letters is Acherontia lachesis, the one that the death heads have been posting everywhere is an Acherontia atropos.
alright cool. i'll still post them just in case anything's different:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Jamie68117/Photo1.jpghttp://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Jamie68117/Photo2.jpghttp://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Jamie68117/Photo3.jpghttp://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Jamie68117/Photo4.jpg
yes it did. But we already figured that part out. the equal sign means e now on that puzzle thing.it would be best to send the pictures to the showbreadupdate email address.
ok. and! to add on more to what matty said. he said that with Acherontia lachesis [the moth on our letters]... lachesis refers to Moira, whom in Greek Mythology allots the correct amount of life to a being.BUT. I just read that with the Acherontia atropos [the one death heads have been posting] atropos efers to the member of the Moirae who cuts the threads of life of all beings in Greek mythology...
To me it looks like the handwriting in Jamie Lynn's letter is a bit different. Also "disobedience" is spelled wrong in hers. In her letter it is spelled "disobediance".
hmm...yeah it is a little different and am I the only one who has obedience?
i think you are
Ok guys and gals. I need to take a shower. I've been putting it off all day. haha. I'll be back later. If anyone needs me IM me on my phone (mattlikeamgazine). Later!
OK will someone email the password to the update email to email@example.comThere have been so many passwords it's confusing. I tried what I THOUGHT was the first one, but it must not have been?? Either that or somebody changed it??HELP!my internet was down for most of yesterday and I just keep getting further and further behind.
uh-oh. matty! i didn't get to respond before you left. i'm from orange beach...my friend, you and i should start a campaign to get showbread down around here for once at least.
WOOOOOOOOOI got into the email!!!I'm proud of myselfhas one of them been changed?
wooo craked both!!!!
so i still feel silly becuase im completely lost, and cant get into the email =D help anyone? firstname.lastname@example.org
Hey Val. Showbread has been down here once. A couple years ago. I think it was right after No Sir... released. They played at Eastern Shore Christian Center (oneighty) in Daphne, AL. I've been trying to get them back ever since. I book show at my church now, and I keep e-mailing their booking agent but he never replies back.
I second getting them to come to alabama for once, Valerie, makes me so mad that they never come over here, I live in Opelika btw, which is near Auburn
Matty I would love you in a straight, manly, lumberjack way forever if you get them to come back to Alabama ha hah ah
Haha. I'm tryin man. Hopefully on their next tour I'll be able to catch them in the planning stages.
yep. they played down here when i lived in florence. then i moved down here and they played in florence! haha, that was this past november- neck of the turkey tour with tyler read and sullivan. so they do come to bama, just not often, and only whenever i'm on the other side of the state. but hey, what's a six hour drive when you get to see showbread.=)i'm really surprised they haven't been to b'ham.
What a relief. It said Blogspot was currently unavailable and I was like "WHAT??" but it is now so... it's all better now.
Ok,Just to confuse you all more, I just got a letter. It's unlike any letter we have gotten. The back of the letter is written like the rest,the front is what puzzles me. Take a look for yourself...It's really hard to read it because it's so light, so I typed it all out word for word, letter for letter…http://www.diamondcow.com/jbm/showbread.jpghttp://www.diamondcow.com/jbm/showbread1.jpghttp://www.diamondcow.com/jbm/typed.doc
wait thats a lot like 2 of the other letters we've gotten..
that is the same letter I got. Except the back is a little different like in all of them.
Oh, well I guess it would have helped if I’d seen yours.very sorry...
I'm getting the feeling that the backs of the letters are written each by a diffrent member of showbread.Explaining the handwriting, size, spelling and caps and such
How many letters were sent? Because there's only 3 Heads of Death, aren't there?
So it looks like so far there are three letters from the "120" (Jamie, Sara, and I), and three from the "center" (Dudepal, Mary, and Drew). Has anyone else gotten a letter?
They never got my email with my information, so I won't be getting a letter.
Also, Drew, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the moth on your envelope was on the front where the return address should be. Correct?
I dont know if this has been said or not but did anyone notice that in the first video posted there were images of a hospital, animal slaugter, dead animals, sick children, a dance hall, and some one scooping 3 handfulls of stones.
kristen- have you ever sent it again?and uh, so now there have been 3 letters for each side...and 3 has been being a very significant number.maybe that means there will be some new clues soon, after we get the rest of this sorted out, of course.
and no i had totally forgotten about that video! nice.
Jurgisonarudkusnames of the death heads?and the 120 is suposed to be a dance hall right?
I had forgotten about the video as well.I think Jurgis and Ona are first names and Rudkus is their last name, of characters from Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. At least thats what I gather from reading some of the comments on this post. They could be used as the names of the Deaths Heads though. Seeing as there are three of them, and the way they're used in the dialog in the e-mail.As far as the 120 goes... pretty sure that it's short for the 120 Days of Sodom, which appears to be the name of the club, or event advertised in the letters that a few of us received.
Jurgis, Ona, and Rudkus aren't the names of the Death's Head. Rudkus isn't their last name either. Rudkus is a totally different character.
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